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Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
CREATED: 11/18/09 by ajulia REPLIES: 96
nicoleshue's ravatar nicoleshue    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 136
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/18/09 4:28 PM

I just sent letters to everyone including Fenty's COS.

I'll be there tonight too!

ashleynellis1's ravatar ashleynellis1    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 84
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/18/09 4:34 PM

thanks for the heads up on this. i just sent an email to the council members, too.

GTDuMont's ravatar GTDuMont    JOINED: 9/28/09    POSTS: 3
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/18/09 5:06 PM

Unfortunately, I cannot attend this evening due to a meeting with my Inn of Court. However, I strongly urge the Wilson Center to continue use of the pool as a 50 meter pool alternating as a 25 meter short course when needed. It is readily apparent that the original design contemplated this, and that is what the District paid good money to accomplish. The purpose of the pool was to alternate between long and short courses within the same facillity. If they just want the mob to rule, as this petition appears to be, then the District just wasted its money again. Also, put a bubble on Haines Point and make it useful year-round - I'll gladly pay for a 50 meter lane!!

lisalisadc's ravatar lisalisadc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 423
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/18/09 6:06 PM

Thanks for all the support to keep the Wilson Aquatic Center's lap lanes 50 meters. Keep e-mailing your comments (see addresses of Parks and Rec people on pg. 1 and City Council members on pg. 2 of thread).

When submitting your comments, please address the pool as Wilson Aquatic Center, not Wilson Pool or Wilson High School Pool. The Wilson Aquatic Center was built for the community.

Do not forget to emphasize that the community did not have proper notice of tonight's meeting. I cannot find any reference to this meeting on the DC gvt website, DPR, Wilson AC site, etc.

svbrescia's ravatar svbrescia    JOINED: 10/14/09    POSTS: 18
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/18/09 8:15 PM

Just sent an email to all the addresses. Sorry just learning about this now or I would have went to the meeting. Good Luck!

siehndel's ravatar siehndel    JOINED: 11/25/05    POSTS: 1061
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/18/09 8:26 PM

Didn't see this until just now. I hope the meeting is going well.

The DC Tri lynch mob seems to be in full effect ;-) I'll send my emails now.

lisalisadc's ravatar lisalisadc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 423
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/18/09 9:36 PM

HI, I took down the majority of our contacts at DPR from the previous post b/c I don't want the short course people using them. E-mail me @ kildaylisa at yahoo.com to get this list of DPR contacts if you're a supporter of 50-meters. Go long or go home!

Meeting recap:
I'm going to write an article about this @ theExaminer http://www.examiner.com/x-19867-DC-Sports-Travel-Examiner?showbio, so I'll keep it short.

Short course supporters were immobilized and notified by Dept of Parks and Rec (DPR), Wilson High School swim team, and Wilson High School PTO. As for the rest of the public, we were NOT sufficiently notified of the meeting or in a timely manner.

No consensus was reached re. Wilson Aquatic Center. There is no data re. short course or long course preference. Short course supporters cited a more supportive swim environment and better atmosphere for the kids and all swimmers as their reason to ruin the 50-meter pool and turn it into a 25-yard pool. Many parents of high schoolers were there.

But, there were supporters of the long course, 50 meter configuration. Some were Masters swimmers, older adults, and a few of our own triathletes. Our arguments include: Switching back and forth will take too much time. Pool designed to be 50-meter pool. That is the best and most prestigious option for an Olympic pool. Several people commented that they canceled their paid pool memberships once Wilson opened. How can we change things at the pool if there is no data and no notice of meeting?

QUOTE OF THE MEETING: "The demand for long course floored me." - Sean Link of DPR

That is a glimmer of hope. But, everyone is talking compromise, which is just another way of saying that DC will make another mediocre decision if not poor choice based on how lazy they are that day.

Keep e-mailing DPR and City Council!!! I have a new contact from Fenty's office. Andrew del Junco - andrew.deljunco@dc.gov
I spoke to some officials and our comments made it to them. Go Team DC Tri!

vatriathlete    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 682
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 9:48 AM

to give you guys an idea about how rare 50 meter pools are.

there are 3 in fairfax county and none of them put it to 50 meter course unless you are a paying rental club that rents out the entire pool, i know because i called all 3.

i just got off the phone with one pool they said it takes 2 hours to switch over the lanes. that is total malary to say the least. It can be done in 15 minutes and i explained ot the person how and they gave the standard "well the short coruse is better for bad swimmers"

why even make a 50 meter pool if you are never going to use it for 50 meters? who the hell came up with these pools? what cowards are the ones that are afraid to ever put them in 50 meter form? wtf?

ajm27's ravatar ajm27    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 127
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 10:13 AM

Lisa did a nice job of summerizing. My inclination is that there will end up being some kind of combination of short course and long course arrangements. It was apparent at the meeting, however, that the pool managment and staff do not want to be bothered with carrying this out. They claimed that it would take over an hour to change it every time. However a few students stated that they did it in 15 minutes with no training. DPR appatently does not have enough staff and they would have more water safety instructors but the 50 meters is too intimidating!

There was some confusion on how exactly this was going to play out, but I believe that they are going to take a survey at the pool starting next week. I encourage everyone to participate in this survey! We encouraged this survey because there was a true misrepresentation at this particular meeting. Thus if we do not participate in the survey, we will definitely miss out...I can promise the families of Wilson's swim team (as well as other schools teams) are going to be very vocal about this.

Hopefully when someone learns how they are going to carry out the survey, we can get as many DC Tri'ers to participate.

vatriathlete    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 682
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 10:19 AM

figures those with no experience in changing lanes woudl say it takes 1 hour or more.. since they have never done it before... but students with no training can do it in 15 minutes.... amazaing.

adilks    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 290
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 10:21 AM

Thanks Lisa and AJ for the update. I wasn't able to make the meeting but am interested in completing the survey. Will it only be at the pool next week? That's Thanksgiving week so I'm not sure if I'll be able to head over there. I wonder if someone can pick one up and then post it to the website for us to complete. I'll also try to motivate myself to swim next Monday or Tuesday before heading out of town.

lisalisadc's ravatar lisalisadc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 423
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 12:14 PM

It was unclear to me whether or not DPR is leaving out surveys for the public at Wilson Aquatic Center. I would not wait to see if they leave out surveys. If I find out, I'll let everyone know.

oh yeah, if you work at Metro Center. Channel 4 is coming to my work right now (outside) 12th & G to interview me about the Wilson Aquatic Center.

amcbride    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 40
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 12:47 PM

I swim there a couple of times a week. If I see any survey forms, I will let you all know. I was unable to be at the meeting, but spoke at lenght with a neighbor who is active at Wilson (her kids went there). She was open to the 50m option, and very negative about pool management, since they seem totally uninterested in meeting the needs of both the school kids (who only swim 25 yards in races) and the people who want to swim long! The strongest case we have is that this is the only 50m in the District. A little coopration from all and we should be able to meet everyones needs. I say get the mayor involved, let's be vocal for 50m.

mosered's ravatar mosered    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1745
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 12:59 PM

Way to go, Lisa. Is your new job a publicist? Maybe it should be....

lisalisadc's ravatar lisalisadc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 423
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 1:31 PM

Tom Sherwood of NBC 4 interviewed me for the 5:00 or 6 o'clock news (he's not sure which slot it will be on). He also interviewed Mayor Fenty on the issue. Hopefully, I did ok.

Keep sending e-mails to Parks and Recs and City Council!

nicoleshue's ravatar nicoleshue    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 136
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 4:03 PM

I left the meeting last night with the impression that Stephanie Pitt, the DC Parks and Rec gal that was moderating the meeting, said that the survey would be on their WEBPAGE.

http://dpr.dc.gov/dpr/site/default.asp?dprNav=|32108|

lisalisadc's ravatar lisalisadc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 423
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/19/09 7:08 PM

Wow, I was cut off in the NBC 4 interview. For the record, I told NBC 4 that I was a member of the DC Tri club who lives and works in DC. I also stated that DC has 8 indoor pools, 2 are therapeutic and 6 have lap lanes. Out of the 6 lap pools, 4 are located in NW: Shaw; Marie Reed; Takoma; and Wilson Aquatic Center. NW has 4 indoor pools (2 that are 50 meters) where SE and NE each have a pool. Because the Olympic caliber facility is unique, it should remain a 50-meter pool, not a 25-yard pool. Takoma A.C. has not currently configured their pool as 50-meters.

Further, NBC and Mary Cheh are both incorrect to state that high schools compete in 25-meter pools. It is 25-yards, not meters.

In the interview, I stated that 50 meter lanes are safer and better for lap swimmers because the lanes are wider, allow swimmers to swim at different paces with a variety of strokes, better spacing between swimmers, and reduces the amount of flip turns, which are a frequent cause of collisions in 25-yard pools.

It is also unrealistic for the high school swim team to 'volunteer' to switch the lap lanes after each practice. This requires several people and would have to be done before 8:00 a.m. when open swim resumes. The lifeguard (possibly a manager) at Wednesday night's meeting indicated that Wilson Aquatic does not have the staff or time to switch lap lanes on a regular basis.

The public did not receive proper notice of the Department of Parks and Recreation (DPR) meeting about proposed changes to Wilson Aquatic. The city and DPR do not have any data on the public's preference of 25 yards vs. 50 meters. D.C. built a 50-meter pool for lap swimmers. If people in Ward 3 or NW would like a short course pool, they may visit any other indoor pool in the city or the three other pools in NW.

Here is the link for the NBC 4 article and video clip: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/The-Clash-of-the-Splash--70558307.html

Please continue to contact DPR and the City Council. Feel free to comment on the NBC 4 story.

kev7's ravatar kev7    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 456
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/20/09 7:37 AM

Great job Lisa! Let's hope that the decision is not already made....

ncrcoach's ravatar ncrcoach    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1048
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/20/09 9:06 AM

Lisa, I was going to state a reply, but as a MD resident I don't want to create any headwaves and get voted off the island.

KingsPoint2001's ravatar KingsPoint2001    JOINED: 11/2/09    POSTS: 99
RE: Wilson Pool to Switch to 25-Yard Lanes?
POSTED: 11/20/09 9:30 AM

I don't use that pool, but I can't agree more with Lisa's comment that it's not the school's pool, it's the community's pool. Good job Lisa, very well spoken. If it's really an issue of having the kids swim in a 25 yard pool, they should bus them to the next closest pool that is designed to only be a 25 yard pool.

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