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Nation's Bike Course Changed?
CREATED: 08/25/10 by ballstoncyclist REPLIES: 26
ballstoncyclist's ravatar ballstoncyclist    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 495
Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 9:40 AM

I went to the Nation's Tri website to look at the course and noticed that they've changed it back to the same course as in 2009. My understanding was that for 2010 it was going to VA to allow for a wider course. Any ideas if (why) it was changed back to the 2009 course? With a greater number of entries for 2010, are we going to fit on the road?

mchaney's ravatar mchaney    JOINED: 7/29/10    POSTS: 25
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 9:57 AM

Apparently, they couldn't secure the requisite permit for the GW Parkway. According to the Nations folks , "We will be placing additional course marshals along the course and will extend the race time and space out the swim waves in order to reduce traffic flow on the course throughout the duration of the race." For those interested, I was able to secure the mapmyrun course map from them and it is available here: http://www.mapmyrun.com/ride/united-states/dc/washington-dc/314125901444688818.

lauren17    JOINED: 4/20/10    POSTS: 10
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 11:22 AM

Will the course be closed to traffic?

mchaney's ravatar mchaney    JOINED: 7/29/10    POSTS: 25
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 11:38 AM

Yes, closed to motor vehicle traffic but there will be bilateral flow on the bike course. http://www.nationstri.com/course-bike.html

crewshell's ravatar crewshell    JOINED: 7/22/10    POSTS: 11
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 11:57 AM

This will be my first tri.

How hilly is that course? Seems like over in the Rock Creek area it has some slopes... no?

mchaney's ravatar mchaney    JOINED: 7/29/10    POSTS: 25
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 12:11 PM

It'll be my first as well.

Nothing too bad re: hills. The steepest stuff will be short and due to onramps, overpasses, etc. If you click the mapmyrun link, in the upper-right will be a box titled "info and tools", if you check the elevation box it'll load an elevation profile for you. Rock Creek is gently up from mi 19-21 but no big climbs.

katelynnmc's ravatar katelynnmc    JOINED: 5/21/10    POSTS: 24
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 12:32 PM

Sucks.

gwcrew2000's ravatar gwcrew2000    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 127
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 5:26 PM

I hope they are kidding. The section of Ohio Drive/Rock Creek that goes under Memorial bridge is a disaster right now because of construction and I think it is only one lane in either direction. I understand they reserved the right to change the course, but the whole idea of two lanes in either direction is what sold me on doing it again.

gwcrew2000's ravatar gwcrew2000    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 127
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/25/10 5:27 PM

I take that back, the course avoids where the construction is.

siehndel's ravatar siehndel    JOINED: 11/25/05    POSTS: 1064
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/27/10 3:55 PM

Hi everyone,

Many of you know that I've been a minor member of the Nation's Tri staff over the last several years. I saw Molly and Chuck last night and we talked about the course changes. It was mentioned above but what it comes down to is what is on the website:

We were unable to secure a permit for the GW Parkway, therefore, the bike course will utilize the Clara Barton Parkway. We will be placing additional course marshals along the course and will extend the race time and space out the swim waves in order to reduce traffic flow on the course throughout the duration of the race.

As an insider on the race planning, I can tell you that everything that we can do to make this the world class race that it is, we're doing. There will definitely be things that can be improved every year and we're working hard to make those improvements. Go into this year with an open mind and I think you'll see that the adjustments we're making to this situation are going to be effective.

And as always, please let me know if you have any questions/concerns that I can help you with. volunteer@wseminc.com

Thanks!
Travis

dixonm's ravatar dixonm    JOINED: 7/1/09    POSTS: 73
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/28/10 10:28 AM

That's too bad...although, truthfully, I thought the course was fine last year. Also, GW Parkway between Rosslyn and 495 is really hilly (of course, it would have been like a rocket sled on the way back), so the upside is that the '09 course is pretty much flat.

Matt

PotomacTriathlete2009's ravatar PotomacTriathlete2009    JOINED: 9/19/09    POSTS: 528
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/28/10 2:46 PM

I was looking forward to those hills on the GW Parkway, especially coming back downhill.

The '09 course is OK but it is a little tight along Canal Rd., especially as you get closer to Georgetown. I was basically forced to draft for a mile or two last year because I got boxed in among a large group of riders. It wasn't safe to pass and I couldn't fall back either because there were too many people behind me. But I still enjoyed the race.

I'm just wondering why the organizers didn't know that they wouldn't be able to get permits for the GW Parkway until now. Did the NPS (or whoever is in charge) change their minds? I know that the Bike DC ride this spring was able to secure a permit to use the GW Parkway, though that route didn't extend as far along the parkway as the Nation's Tri bike route would have.

In the end, it doesn't matter too much. I'll go out there and try to beat my times from last year. Hopefully we'll be able to ride on the GW Parkway next year.

stivnik's ravatar stivnik    JOINED: 1/11/10    POSTS: 43
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 2:27 PM

So I got my email with my Nation's bib# and starting wave (#31, 9 AM). This must be among the last waves since the TA opens for bike pick-up not much later than that.

I am looking forward to the bike course on Clara Barton. I think the rollers along GW parkway would have been fast and - perhaps too - furious on the downhill return leg.

Looking forward to the race and any strategies for coping with the long delay until my swim wave heads off.

S.Kelley

hppeabody's ravatar hppeabody    JOINED: 9/17/09    POSTS: 193
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 2:58 PM

9:08 right here Steve. I feel your pain. I'm thinking of bringing an air mattress or cot or soemthing of like to take a nap. Not looking forward to just coming out of the water while people are taking their bikes out of transition because they are done! (I should mention though that I do love the Nations people and appreciate everything they are doing though and I trust that they are doing everything they can to manage such a large number of people!) I suppose it will be cool to watch the pros finish??

trithis73's ravatar trithis73    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 525
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 3:19 PM

Wooooooooohoooooooooo!!!!!! I got a 7:28 start. I must have slipped someone a $50 spot or something. I will take it though. I am not worried about the course, I know that it's hard and the things they were trying to do. I just plan on having me some fun.

stivnik's ravatar stivnik    JOINED: 1/11/10    POSTS: 43
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 3:34 PM

If they resolved the port-o-john issues from DC Tri (which they should have done since the start/finish areas are in one place), then at least I can fuel up without compromising my dignity;-)

I had the early wave last time out, so this will be payback. Still, can't wait for race day and a rematch with the Potomac.

S.

mchaney's ravatar mchaney    JOINED: 7/29/10    POSTS: 25
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 3:36 PM

I, a mere triathlon virgin, pulled a 7:08 spot with swim wave 3. Gasp! Color me slightly more anxious. The less time to think about it, the better; right?

crewshell's ravatar crewshell    JOINED: 7/22/10    POSTS: 11
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 3:51 PM

SO I too a newbie pulled a low starting time too... Wave 10 at 7:38.... oh.... geessss.... nerves already starting to kick in!

bsull184's ravatar bsull184    JOINED: 2/6/10    POSTS: 283
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 3:51 PM

Took me awhile to find it hidden on the site, so I figured some other people missed it...here is the full wave list if you are interested in when everyone else is going out:

http://thenationstriathlon.com/assets/files/2010_swim_waves.pdf

Now that we have bib numbers, time to start worrying about the water temperature? Seems like we are going to have some higher than average air temperatures over the next two weeks.

-Brian

stivnik's ravatar stivnik    JOINED: 1/11/10    POSTS: 43
RE: Nation's Bike Course Changed?
POSTED: 8/30/10 5:16 PM

Well, there isn't much you can do about the water temps. Anything less than jellyfish-infested waters is a bonus, but minimal chop would be nice.

Congestion on the bike route is a concern, but as Tuan would say: "it is what it is..."

4-minute swim wave intervals?

"It is what it is..."

Praise Jah and pass the Gu

S.Kelley
The Mystic Worrier

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