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Hains Pt. Mornings
CREATED: 03/01/09 by mosered REPLIES: 810
AndyJB444's ravatar AndyJB444    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 401
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/05/10 9:24 PM

Whatever pace you want to pull us at! ;)

In all seriousness, I'm expecting Patrick's group to be rolling somewhere around 24-26 when "doing work" tomorrow.

Of course, there are always a few other groups that form at varying paces below that depending on the crowd.

See you out there,
Andy

ncrcoach's ravatar ncrcoach    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1064
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/05/10 11:45 PM

KB, you gotta be kidding me if you are going to jump back into this group so quickly after CDA. Congrats on Kona! Bring me back some java if you can.

bsull184's ravatar bsull184    JOINED: 2/6/10    POSTS: 283
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 7:19 AM

Didn't see you guys until after that rider went down, and at that point I decided to cut my ride short anyways.

Anyone hear what happened to him? Overheard a runner said he "went flying", but not sure if he curbed his front wheel or got rear ended by a car. Never saw a car there, and I think I came up on him right after it happened.

-Brian

merlinkim's ravatar merlinkim    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 296
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 7:35 AM

I showed up at that corner after the Park Police and before EMS -- didn't see a car either, just folks with bikes. It seems like an odd place to have an accident. I took one more (short) long loop after that and called it a morning.

- FYI, they opened the HP gates a little before 7 to clear out the traffic from Buckeye so they could clear the way to Pk Police HQ for the helicopter.

pserfass's ravatar pserfass    JOINED: 3/23/09    POSTS: 441
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 8:44 AM

Crazy morning.

Two things relevant to everyone:
1. We're going to make sure we're more careful at the stop signs. I don't know if a blown stop sign was cause for the crash, but the park police were out in force after the airlift to make sure full stops were made. I all but put my foot down and got an ear full for not hanging out longer before I started off again.

2. Regarding the gates, I asked two park police officers and independent of each other both said that the gates are supposed to be opened at 7am, "maybe earlier." The issue now is that there's fencing keeping anyone from going around the gates when they're closed like we could a couple weeks ago. We'll need to see if there's an opportunity to petition for them to be opened earlier.

Stay hydrated and safe out there!

lisde    JOINED: 4/27/10    POSTS: 20
Hains Pt. Mornings Dynamics
POSTED: 7/06/10 11:01 AM

Hi,

I am contemplating participating in the bike rides TU and TH morning. However, I am wondering on the dynamic of these group rides. Is it a group workout or a group of people (regulars) that have their set speed and training set up?

On flats, my pace can be between 16-20 mph. I am seeking a group of people of the same level that I can ride along with, as oppose to riding by myself. Would this be the setting to do it in? Is the group diverse enough for everybody to be able to have the group training benefits? I have read that for the most part, there are some very speedy riders out there (21-25mph) that do their own thing. I could be wrong. Any info would be great! Thanks and hope everybody had a great 4th of July weekend!

SeanG's ravatar SeanG    JOINED: 4/8/09    POSTS: 160
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 1:54 PM

You can look back at the past posts on this topic, but there are sometimes other riders out there that would meet your speed. The regular group may be a tad faster than 16-20.

ajm27's ravatar ajm27    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 128
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 3:30 PM

This group does encourage riders of all levels to come out. I am not quite as fast as the core group either. But I just sit back, draft and hang on for as long as I can. Each week I can hang on a bit longer. I think this would be a good workout to help you increase your speed and get stronger. The group often regroups so there are plenty of opportunities to ride with the group. If you are someone that hates to get dropped and ride by yourself at times (which it sounds like you already do), then this may not be the best group to ride with. Hope to see you out there.

lisde    JOINED: 4/27/10    POSTS: 20
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 3:49 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I will definately come and join you guys. I don't mind getting dropped, I just was not sure if the setup of the training was conducive to being able to join, hang on, dropped back and join in again, which is basically what I do on Wednesday track workouts with all the sub 6min/mile runners, and it has already helped me a lot. Its good to know. Thanks for the taking the time to write. There is nothing better than riding with faster riders to make push yourself harder. See you all, hopefully on Thursday.

Thanks again!
Delisse

lisde    JOINED: 4/27/10    POSTS: 20
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 4:07 PM

I apologize for all the typos...guess i am fading fast..time for a snack..

siehndel's ravatar siehndel    JOINED: 11/25/05    POSTS: 1068
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/06/10 4:35 PM

Chances are that most of us aren't smart enough to notice the typos... I know I'm not ;)

It's always great to have new riders so we'll look forward to seeing you out there. You'll quickly catch on to where the good spots to regroup are. Be sure to just ask the first time you're there and people should help you out.

Unfortunately I can't make it out there this week. I'm not looking forward to the evening heat.

nelsb7p0's ravatar nelsb7p0    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 439
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/07/10 8:43 AM

To add to Patrick's #1 point - not sure if anybody was out at HP yesterday evening, but I ran into a buddy at the pool last night who had just come from down there and is now $50 poorer as a result.

Apparently they're (Park Police) giving out tickets ($50) for blowing the stops signs with NO WARNINGS - I can only assume due to the accident yesterday. Be especially careful at the intersection of Buckeye & Ohio (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=38.878333,-77.029451&num=1&sll=38.91053,-77.119752&sspn=0.050373,0.076288&ie=UTF8&ll=38.878372,-77.029449&spn=0.005796,0.009645&z=17) where we meet, as I know in the past they can be staked out on Ohio Drive as you make the right turn.

-Brady

bsull184's ravatar bsull184    JOINED: 2/6/10    POSTS: 283
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/07/10 9:16 AM

You could probably fix the DC budget gap in a week by ticketing all the bikers who run those three stop signs on the short loop.

-Brian

siehndel's ravatar siehndel    JOINED: 11/25/05    POSTS: 1068
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/07/10 9:18 AM

In all seriousness, who can give us the low-down on the crash yesterday? Was a DC Tri member involved?

-Travis

bsull184's ravatar bsull184    JOINED: 2/6/10    POSTS: 283
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/07/10 9:36 AM

It was not a DC Tri member (or at least I didn't recognize him and he wasn't in a kit or with the group). I never heard any update about his health or even what caused it though. I must have came up on him about a minute after it happened, and my impression was that no car was involved, but that could be wrong.

-Brian

pserfass's ravatar pserfass    JOINED: 3/23/09    POSTS: 441
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/12/10 11:39 PM

The combination of a delayed flight--still not back in dc yet--and all the rain forecast means I'll be running and swimming tomorrow instead of biking. Planning to ride Thursday and perhaps tomorrow. Will post more details later as I nail them down. -Patrick

Eric's ravatar Eric    JOINED: 8/18/04    POSTS: 275
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings -- TOTAL 20
POSTED: 7/19/10 4:54 PM

Who's headed out tomorrow for a nice recovery ride?

rlgrohs's ravatar rlgrohs    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 31
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/19/10 5:08 PM

I am planning on it, with different wheels...

bsull184's ravatar bsull184    JOINED: 2/6/10    POSTS: 283
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/20/10 9:10 AM

Worst. "Recovery Ride". Ever.

Good workout though.

-Brian

DoggyBrown's ravatar DoggyBrown    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 137
RE: Hains Pt. Mornings
POSTED: 7/20/10 10:44 AM

Yeah, there was no recovery in that ride.

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