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2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
CREATED: 11/05/09 by no-e-plz REPLIES: 43
nomisdc's ravatar nomisdc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 615
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/22/09 3:36 PM

Our Mid-Atlantic Club Championship Statistics:
In 2007, at North East Md, we had 54 competitors
In 2008, at the NJ State Triathlon, coinciding with our selection of NJ as the NTP race, we had 108 competitors,
Last year, in 2009, at North East Md, we had 64 competitors. (numbers may be a little off from manual count)
Our biggest competition in 2008 was the New Jersey Shore club, with 39 competitors. Philadelphia Tri club had 15 competitors.
In 2009, our competition was:
Annapolis Triathlon Club: 5, Baltimore Area Tri: 5, Mid Maryland: 4, MOCO Multisport: 1, PaxRiver Tri Club: 1, Penn State Tri: 1, Philly Tri Club: 5, T3: 2, Team Triumph: 3, Tri Velocity: 6

The bar for scoring for your club (ie coming in 5th place or better) in the club competition is lower than you might expect. For review, the points for place are: 1st: 6 pts, 2d: 5 pts, 3d: 4 pts, 4th: 3 pts, 5th: 2 pts. Here are the times which scored 2 points for each age group (some AG’s did not have enough participants therefore the time scored higher). If you / our club / another club can beat this time in this AG, it would score points.
M Overall: 2:16 (3rd place - scored 8 pts), F Overall: 2:31 (3rd place - scored 8 pts), F20-24: 3:20, F25-29: 2:36, F30-34: 2:58, F35-39: 3:30, F40-44: 3:12, F 45-49: 4:06 (only 2 participants), F50-54:4:00 (only 2 participants), F60-64: 2:41 (1 participant), M19under: 2:19 (1 participant), M20-24: 3:29 (1 participant), M25-29: 2:30, M30-34 2:35, M35-39: 2:39, M40-44: 2:49, M45-49: 3:23
As posted previously here:
http://www.dctriclub.org/forum/messages.cfm?tid=290EB0AF-E234-950C-F2A85C5B74B5F70D

siehndel's ravatar siehndel    JOINED: 11/25/05    POSTS: 1063
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/23/09 9:34 AM

Simon forgot to carry a one,

In 2008 we had 210 athletes on the course!

nomisdc's ravatar nomisdc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 615
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/23/09 9:53 AM

Thanks Travis,
Not to be argumentative, but in trying to discover the actual number of competitors we had in 2008, the results document has our number at the 108 mentioned previously, with 29 people scoring. I'm open to understanding the discrepancy between our previously reported count of 210 athletes and the official online results showing 108.
http://www.lin-mark.com/usatmaclub08.txt

The number of competitors in 2009 percent decrease-wise is:
210 athletes to 64 is 70% participation decrease.
108 athletes to 64 is 40% participation decrease.
Still, 64 athletes is more athletes than most clubs have in the first place...

siehndel's ravatar siehndel    JOINED: 11/25/05    POSTS: 1063
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/23/09 10:32 AM

Doh! You're right.... While we did have 210 people on the course, not all of those athletes competed in the Olympic distance race. Apparently 100 of them participated in the Sprint distance which did not score points towards the Club Championship.

However, it was total domination in all aspects of the race!

We also posted ~20-25 volunteers on the course that year.

mosered's ravatar mosered    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1768
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/23/09 12:37 PM

Philly Tri same weekend as Bike Virginia. Have never willingly missed either. (The sound of hands wringing.)

nomisdc's ravatar nomisdc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 615
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/23/09 10:40 PM

Ah cool, thanks for the thought Travis. Of course - the sprint race! 210 athletes + volunteers is complete domination. As is 64 (and 64's not counting the sprint triathletes or volunteers either) :).

Ed, can't you do something like race Philly and make part of Bike VA? It would be like a nice fun training weekend.

carrollea's ravatar carrollea    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 27
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/24/09 8:27 PM

Well, dang! *%#@! I've already signed up for the new Celebration Sprint Tri in Columbia, MD on the same day. Wish I'd known earlier - I would much rather do the Club Championship with all you guys again. I'll put the Rocketts Landing Tri (around the 24th of July 2011?) on my calendar now!!

pserfass's ravatar pserfass    JOINED: 3/23/09    POSTS: 439
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 12:35 PM

$185-$215 for the olympic?! That's robbery!
http://www.phillytri.com/registration/

mtallent's ravatar mtallent    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 38
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 2:05 PM

I agree, what happend to paying $75 when you registered this early? These entry fees have gotten out of control... I went ahead and registered though. Man, this is the first time I've had to plan my entire season out a year in advance!

nelsb7p0's ravatar nelsb7p0    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 429
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 2:13 PM

When I went to register and saw the $197 come up at checkout, I thought for a minute that I had accidentally selected for a half iron distance (which Philly doesn't have)!!! It definitely is getting out of control, but at least there still are some reasonably priced events out there, mainly some of the SetupEvents ones.

kmwpro's ravatar kmwpro    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 269
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 2:21 PM

Is this the price that Philly has always been or did they jack it up because they knew they had secured the Mid Atlantic Club Championship Race?

That's almost what we paid to race Eagleman. Good grief.

JoeC's ravatar JoeC    JOINED: 7/10/05    POSTS: 213
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 2:26 PM

Its a major city (albeit a crappy one....maybe I am still bitter about baseball) so its comparable to what you have to pay for races in other large cities like NYC or DC since the permits cost more money. That said I am not a fan of the price.

vatriathlete    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 682
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 2:32 PM

welcome to the world of triathlons, congratulations you are now officially ready for the sticker shock of race entry fees!!!!!

LOL

yeah its that expensive, get used to it.

kmwpro's ravatar kmwpro    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 269
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 2:33 PM

Thanks for your insightful comments.

pserfass's ravatar pserfass    JOINED: 3/23/09    POSTS: 439
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/25/09 2:43 PM

If you're so down with it, feel free to pay my entry fee. This is easily the most expensive olympic near DC that I've ever seen--by a long shot.

lisalisadc's ravatar lisalisadc    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 423
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/26/09 8:40 AM

Escape from Alcatraz last year was $400. Basically an Olympic plus (1.5 mile swim - fun run in transition - 18 mile bike - 8 mile run (mostly trail). But, I have to say worth it at least once (or 4 times).

vatriathlete    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 682
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/26/09 9:31 AM

What are yu talking about? Nations tri and NYC tri were both equally expensive this last year and Columbia was close behind

note this years nations tri entry is only 10 dollars diff than Philly was when it opened

bcfrank's ravatar bcfrank    JOINED: 3/23/09    POSTS: 962
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/26/09 10:00 AM

Yeah, but it's Philly!!! :) NYC and DC races I can see as being expensive (Columbia I just don't get though) given the areas and what has to be closed... National Mall area, major bridges, Central Park for NYC, etc., but what's there in Philly? :) The Philly tri is isolated to a small park area of the city with no major thoroughfares closed off. Pittsburgh has a tri that is only $85 to enter.

Though maybe the Philly tri provide police escort to every racer to prevent them from getting mugged or getting something hurled at them by angry Eagles fans. :)

vatriathlete    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 682
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/26/09 10:30 AM

columbia i can totally understand, its one of the oldest races around with the most history with a course that essentially has not changed for years. there is really no question why columbia is so expensive, because it can be, people will do that race no matter the cost, its one of the better courses around here

also st anthony's another big race in a smaller city but just as expensive but one of the older classic races.

la triathlon, equally as expensive, goes right in the middle of la from the beach.

alcatraz is another beast all together that price has just gotten outragious over the years even faster than most other races.

i have not done but i believe that the chicago tri is just as expensive as these races, but double check, again another major city race.

happy thanksgiving

mosered's ravatar mosered    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1768
RE: 2010 and 2011 Club Championships announced
POSTED: 11/27/09 10:34 AM

BTW, word on points or not for volunteers at the race, from one of the organizers (the Nordically named Lars Beck):

"I’ve copied Gretchen (Cooney) on this email – she has been working with the USAT-MA folks on this. I don’t think a club gets points for volunteers (though we’ll still love to have them) but I’m not sure. She’ll be in touch to confirm...I believe the scoring is being created by USAT-MA but, again, Gretchen will confirm. Thanks and we look forward to seeing you in Philly, Lars."

I responded that points for vols helps hike interest in and attendance at the events (not mentioning it helps the point tally of large clubs like DCT, heh heh).

Their contact info, if you wanted to provide your own two cents:

LBeck@phillyscholars.org
gcooney@comcast.net


Update: "Volunteers don’t count for scoring points...Scoring has been established by USAT Mid-Atlantic, to mirror USAT national club scoring."

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