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June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
CREATED: 06/02/10 by JohnGinsberg REPLIES: 9
JohnGinsberg's ravatar JohnGinsberg    JOINED: 3/29/09    POSTS: 35
June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/02/10 11:19 PM

Heya~ I mapped out a 43-miler for Sunday, with 1657 feet of climbing. The ride starts and ends at the Gandhi statue at Mass. & Q, NW. It includes much beauty on shady roads in Rock Creek Park, some good hills, loops around both the Mormon Temple and National Cathedral. A few hills are at loop points in the ride, if folks want to add hill-repeats. Planning to be at the Gandhi statue at 9:00 and roll at 9:15. Let me know if you think you’ll join. (mailto:john.ginsberg@verizon.net) Or you can just show up.

If you bring a way to lock your bike, you can lock the lock at our starting point, lock your bike up after the ride, and hit the great DuPont Farmers Market, which is a block away.

The ride is in saved in four parts (to make the maps easier to read).

This ride will occasionally recur and will evolve to become hillier as September and Savageman draw near. In later outings, I'd like to add an extension (following part 2) out to Lake Needwood, on a route other than the bikepath, which is cruddy and crowded and not good for roadbiking. If anyone has any tips on a good route, I'd be much obliged.

Part 1: http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/dc/washington/147127552736795897.
Part 2: http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/dc/washington/359127552852720231.
Part 3: http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/md/kensington/649127552892779344.
Part 4: http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/md/kensington/320127552985433162.

Pace range will likely be BB/A on the Potomac Peddlers scale (which you can find here: http://www.bikepptc.org/ride_class_table). We'll try to hang together and regroup if we separate.

We're all responsible for our own safety and that of those around us. To ensure both, please be familiar with the club's policies and group cycling do's and don'ts http://dctriclub.org/forum/messages.cfm?tid=F3C715F9-F779-9A2B-571C96A1FBB84B44.

dsgrunning's ravatar dsgrunning    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1287
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/03/10 7:35 AM

Have you done any of these routes before (the Lake Needwood extension in particular)? Viers Mill, Norbeck Road, and Muncaster Mill do not look like safe roads to be biking on. There are lots of cars blowing by at crazy speed and there are sections where the roads are not that wide.

There are sidewalks in some sections but on the roads themselves seem kind of crazy to be biking on. Those are not the kind of roads for people who are car-phobic or who have poor bike handling skills to be riding on.

Anyway, I'd like a scouting report since I've never biked those roads but have driven on them a lot.

Tuan

JohnGinsberg's ravatar JohnGinsberg    JOINED: 3/29/09    POSTS: 35
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/03/10 8:19 AM

Thank you for thinking about this and for posting, Tuan. Parts 1 through 4 are on familiar roads, except that little bit of road I included around the National Cathedral, and they're all good for cycling. The Lake Needwood extension (which I've deleted) was experimental and cued up for scouting. I am trying to find a way out to the lake that's better than the bike path, which I have found to be too cruddy and crowded for roadbiking. If you or anyone has any insights into better routes, I'd really appreciate your sharing. Do you think the roads you mention would be unfriendly to cyclists even on a Sunday morning?

dsgrunning's ravatar dsgrunning    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1287
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/03/10 8:55 AM

I don't bike around the Lake Needwood area so I don't know any good routes to get there. I do know that there are some beautiful roads to get to that lake via bike since I've driven on some of them.

As far as the roads that I mentioned and riding on Sunday, I think that you will run into the same problem on any day of the week. Those are major traveled roads not the out of the way roads. If there are fewer cars on the road, that just means that the fewer ones will be going that much faster.

As far as good routes in the area, below are the ones that most people in DCTri go on when they are looking for local roads to bike for long distance rides. These roads have very few cars on them on any hours of any day of the week once you get away from DC a little bit.

Tuan

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60 Miles Travilah
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http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/dc/washington/926124888526131286
R Wisconsin (0.0)
L Resevoir Rd (@~0.5)
R MacArthur Blvd (@~2.1)
R Falls Rd (@~12.6)
L River Rd (@~14.7)
R Travilah Rd (@~19.8)
turn slight R to stay on Travilah at Turkey Foot intersection (@~22)
L Darnestown Rd (Rte 28) (@~25.2)
L Seneca Rd (Rte 112) (@~30.8)
becomes River Rd (@~33.6)
stay on River Rd. until the Partnership Rd intersection (@35)

TURN AROUND
River Rd (112)
R on 190 to stay on River Rd (@~36.5)
R Falls Rd (@~44.5)
L MacArthur Blvd (@~46.5)
L Resevoir Rd (@~57.9)
R Wisconsin (@~58.6)
Home base @59.44

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70 Miles - South Glenn
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http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/dc/washington/396124943312596987
R Wisconsin (0.0)
L Resevoir Rd (@~0.5)
R MacArthur Blvd (@~1.5)
R Falls Rd (Rte 189) (@~12.6)
L S. Glen (@~15.4)
R Glen Mill Rd (@~17.1)
R to stay on Glen Mill Rd at T(@~18.9)
R to stay on Glen Mill Rd at T(@~19.8)
L Darnestown Rd. (Rte 28) (@~21.1)
L Beallsville Rd. (Rte 109) (@~36.3)
becomes Elgin
R Fisher Ave (Rte 107) (@~38.7)
quick L W. Willard Rd.
L River Rd (@~43.2)
R to stay on River (Rte 190) at Seneca (@~48.2)
R Falls Rd (@~56.1)
L MacArthur Blvd (@~58.3)
L Resevoir Rd (@~69.5)
R Wisconsin Ave (@~70.4)


M Street to W. Willard Road (Detour through Persimmon) - 70 miles
http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/dc/washington/490124707161621478

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80 Miler - Darnstown Rail Road Tracks
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http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/dc/washington/860124774813552902

R Wisconsin Ave (@~0.0)
L Reservoir Rd (@~1.5)
R MacArthur Blvd (@~2.7)
R Falls Rd (@~14.6)
L River Rd (@~16.6)
R Travilah Rd (@~21.7)
L Turkey Foot Rd (@~23.9)
at Turkey Foot and Jones, straight on Jones (@~25)
L Darnestown Rd (Rte 28) (@~26.6)
R Dickerson Rd (@~39.2)

** turn around at the train tracks or gas station on your right hand side. They are about 100 yards apart(@~40.5). The train tracks are above you in the form of a bridge (i.e., not at street level)

Dickerson Rd
L Darnestown Rd (@~41.5)
R Beallsville Rd (Rte 109) (@~44)
R Fisher
quick L W.Willard Rd (@~46.4)
L River Rd (@~50.9)
at Seneca intersection, R to stay on River (Rte 190) (@~56)
R Falls Rd (@~64.1)
L MacArthur Blvd (@~66.1)
L Reservoir Rd (@~77.5)
R Wisconsin Ave (@~78.4)
Home Base @80-ish

=======================
89 Miles - Sugarloaf
=======================
http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/va/arlington/356124810328524145

R Wisconsin
L Reservoir Rd
R MacArthur Blvd
R Falls Rd (@~13.5)
L River Rd (@~15.5)
R Travilah Rd (@~20.7)
L Turkey Foot (@~23)
(stay straight onto Jones Ln at Turkey Foot turn) (@~24)
L Darnestown Rd (Rte 28) (@~25.6)
R White Ground Rd (Rte 121) (@~31)
quick R Clopper
quick L Clarksburg
L Barnesville Rd (Rte 117)(@~36)
R Slidell Rd (@~37.1)
L Comus Rd (Rte 95)(@~40.75)
L on Sugar Mountain Rd (Rte 95) (@~44.6)
(becomes Mt. Ephraim)
L Barnesville Rd (@~46.7)
R Beallsville Rd (Rte 109)(@~48.8)
(becomes Elgin)
R Fisher (107)(@~55)
quick L W. Willard
L River Rd (@~59.5)
(at Seneca intersection, turn R to stay on River (Rte 190))
R Falls Rd (@~73)
L MacArthur Blvd (@~75.1)
L Reservoir Rd (@~86.5)
R Wisconsin (@~88)
Home base @89

hppeabody's ravatar hppeabody    JOINED: 9/17/09    POSTS: 193
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/03/10 10:40 AM

Tuan,

Thanks so much for providing some cue sheets. This is so much less confusing to me than trying to decode a map. I'm always looking for new routes and come next month the HIM training starts which means longer rides!

H

dsgrunning's ravatar dsgrunning    JOINED: 2/28/09    POSTS: 1287
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/03/10 10:45 AM

Hillary ... they don't call me Vietnamese Royalty for my freakishly good looks alone :)

JohnGinsberg's ravatar JohnGinsberg    JOINED: 3/29/09    POSTS: 35
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/03/10 9:58 PM

Hillary~ I will add cue sheets in coming weeks. I am planning on developing the route as I gear up for Savageman. Meantime, come on out -- you can just ride with the group, no cues necessary.

Tuan~ Thanks again. I know the DC Tri routes well. Your assessment that the roads "have very few cars on them on any hours of any day of the week once you get away from DC a little bit" tells me two things:

(1) You ought to come check out this ride one of these days. I think you'll find that for shorter rides (45 miles or less), it compares very favorably -- in terms of car-quietude, beauty, shade and hills -- with the MacArthur/Falls/River corridor. For 60miles+, when you're going well beyond the T at Seneca and on toward Sugarloaf, the rides you've posted win hands down. But beauty is subjective.

(2) I need to take seriously your negative assessment of my experimental Needwood extension. I've taken it down till I can scout out a good route. If you can tell me any of those better roads you drive, that'd be great.

Best,
John

novasupra's ravatar novasupra    JOINED: 12/3/09    POSTS: 70
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/03/10 11:16 PM

that route looks pretty good except you might want to consider just starting in RCP... there are just a lot of stop lights and intersections from Dupont to RCP... if you have a larger group, it might get a little annoying.

JohnGinsberg's ravatar JohnGinsberg    JOINED: 3/29/09    POSTS: 35
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/05/10 6:08 AM

@novasupra~ Thanks very much. I'm going to time the trip to the gates at Beach Drive and Broad Branch so that when we run this route again, we can offer people the opportunity to park at Pierce Mill or thereabouts and meet us at the gates. Meantime, I think you'll find there aren't too many stops in the first mile or so of the route leading up to the park -- that it compares favorably with the first legs of our beloved DC Tri Club's Saturday ride, or the shop rides out of the Bike Rack or Conte's Arlington. So come on out!

JohnGinsberg's ravatar JohnGinsberg    JOINED: 3/29/09    POSTS: 35
RE: June 6: Rock Creek Valley Allez!
POSTED: 6/05/10 3:00 PM

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